Getting my shop in shape!

A shop, if loved, is always in need of care.

If ever you are in the area of our home, give me a call. I’ll have you stop by for a cup of coffee and a tour of my shop. Please call ahead because  my shop it’s pretty noisy and and I wear ear protection. That being the case,  I don’t always hear the phone ring right away.

A clean shop aids in production.

Marketing manager (aka my wife)

The other day as I was getting my shopvac set up I was approached by my wife. In the middle of my cleaning she  appeared with a request to make some gift pens for a fellow teacher.

I agreed. Then, hardly had that request been made,  an incoming phone call reminded I have a standing order to fill.  Additionally, I had some family gifts to prepare, some trees to be finished, and tops to ship as soon as possible.

It would appear that I will have to get the cleaning done another time!

Shop cleanliness and organization go hand and hand.

I am a visual person. To stay organized I make list that are written down. I draw pictures, add comments to my iPad, and use a lot of “post it” notes.  A “dirty” shop makes me nervous. So it is that on a regular basis I will take out a graph paper pad and make a numbered list of things that I want to accomplish. Once the list is made I take a few minutes to prioritize it. One of the things that is frequently on my list is cleaning my shop. I try to have a clean work place before I begin another project.   I never really seem to get there! Anyone know what I mean? You can only imagine how unrealistic that is when most turning projects make sawdust!  There are always interruptions, more than a few projects to comple, and the list goes on.  But I keep trying.

Enter shop stage right the whiteboard and dry erase marker.

Mentioned this in an earlier blog, but I didn’t go into many details to bring the subject to an end. Let me take you down to my shop and show you what I mean. Here’s what I ended up with to help with my problems of production and shop cleanliness.

I have used whiteboards as teaching tools for a long time. They are sometimes preferred to Power Point Presentations, and I find that many of my students looked forward to expressing their ideas before a class by using a whiteboard. Some find it easier to jot down a thought or draw a sketch on a whiteboard than render it electronically. It can take less time, and may serve as a visual trigger. The notes often give me a nudge to revisit or develop what I had thought. It is also a task tracker for me when I have several goals to fulfil.

Where to start shopping for my shop

laying aside my pen order, I undertook the search and find activities of having a whiteboard in my shop. The first thing I did was to jot down on a piece of paper the wants and needs I thought might fill the bill. I determined that it shouldn’t be too large and and I wanted it to be able to be posted where I could see it.  Other specifications were:  easily cleaned, portable, and durable.

Three types of “board” available for shop use.

My research revealed that there were basically 3 types available: melamine, metal based smooth surfaced, and glass backed. The next step was to decide between shopping online or going to my local office supply store.  In the order mentioned, the prices ranged from $50 – $150. Ouch! I simply didn’t want to be spending shop cash at that rate. So what to do?

“Shopping” at home instead of shopping in the market place.

I needed to be reason through what the actual cost versus the potential benefit to running my little woodturning business that I call NEEDLES OF THE NORTH™. It’s one thing to turn an occasional object and quite another to be able to supply retail outlets. Larger orders require production plans.  And there are marketing, book keeping, remaining organized, having a safe and clean workplace to retain a grip on time management.

“Let’s make our own ‘shop’ board!”

To cover all the bases for such a simple, but useful item, I decided to make my own! I could save money, time, and mileage by making  one  from stuff I without spending for a ready made one.

I had a pieces of window glass, some flat white spray paint, and suitable wood for the frame.  the tools I have to cut, glue, mount and finish the project on hand. Here’s my proto type!

  This, however, doesn’t seem to fill the bill! Its simply too small! Glass is perfect for cleaning. It doesn’t develope any shadowing, but its way to heavy when the size increases.

So instead of spending any more time on this project I got myself over to the supply store and taking advantage of the pre-Christmas sales that abound, was able to get a metal backed whiteboard (pictured above) for less than $20, It serves my pupose and has allowed for the visual planning that I wanted.

Shop Project complete, so is snowman!

While putzing with the whiteboard issue another request came through from management. Could I possibly add a Snowman Box to my list? Please! Who can say no to the hand that feeds you? Here’s the results, without mittens and skarf…management will make them.

Its on to getting that shopvac set up! Until next time…stay sharp and God Bless.  Merry Christmas!


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What in the world has happened?!

One bite (byte) at a time

An effort to heal

Since my last posting here enough has transpired in the world, in our country and in our personal and business life to fill a library! Where to begin, or even to attempt to make a passing reference to more than a few things would be ridiculous! I will not try, but will stick to the Pens by Fred basics. Whew! I bet your glad for that.

We’re on our way back…glaucoma surgery, A transurethral resection of the prostate (TURP), retirement from the public ministry, total hip replacement, infection, treatment resistant edema, all that is behind us and transpired since midsummer 2017. Instead of mid-summer night’s dream it has been a night mare! So, to begin to recover my culinary skills I chose to prepare some squash for our dinner table. It took me about an hour and a half from start to finish. My missus gave me two thumbs up and I got around a mental and physical corner! Praise the Lord and thanks to modern day medicine.

This is what I used

To show patient love

I’d like to add at this point a special acknowledgement and expression of thanks and understanding to and about my wife. From mid-June to even most recently, she has had to put up with a lot of extra stress. She has borne up under the pressure very well and I love her for it. More than that, however, I have a new understanding for the expression in our vows “in sickness and in health.” Furthermore, I have a new appreciation for all those couples who are devoted to one another and have to deal each other’s difficulties. Many are stressed due to sudden or gradual changes in their lives caused by sickness, accidents, and natural catastrophes. Whoever you are, wherever you may be, may I assure you that I have added you to my daily prayers. Its a general petition that you will be given the grace and strength to show patient love to your spouse, and, as a part of your suffering, remain faithful to one another.

Back to my shop!

In order to heal I reasoned that I needed to get out of myself. I needed to get beyond the self-pity that so often accompanies major surgery. I had to focus on something, anything, beyond “me.” So preparing for a craft sale became a part of the process. How so? Well, it literally took me down many steps and back up again (aka PT – my shop is ini the basement). In my shop I had placed me before my tools, wood, and especially, my JET woodturning lathes. I chose to concentrate on making my favorite objects, i.e. little wooden trees. Trees, tops, and eight pointed paper stars took over my daily activities. Intermingled were many hours of walking, woodturning, sawing, sanding and painting. Here are pictured a few.

became for me the Star of Advent

Trees of the Nativity
Forest of The Nativity
Swarovski crystals add sparkle

Tracking Projects with a Whiteboard

As of this writing Thanksgiving Day and Black Friday have come and gone.It has come to my attention after trying to keep track of all the orders for Christmas turnings, that I must have a more visual process to order fulfillment. So as a quick diversion I set about searching for a “white board” that would allow tracking orders and recording ideas as they came to me while working at the lathe. I went on line, shopped by phone at the local office supply store and considered my preferred specifications. I wanted some thing that was relatively small, easily to mount on a wall in close proximity to my lathe, and which would be easy enough to be cleaned and would not have much shadowing, if any at all. Well, I didn’t want to spend over $100 in the process so I decided to make my own. That’s another story and I’ll show you a brief photo journal of the process next time.

Until then keep your chin up and tools sharp! It’s almost Advent Season!


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The ClutterStuff Shoppe!

To shop or not to shop that was the question. My wife and I just returned from a very much needed day “away from the farm.” What we had decided to do was to get away from the smokie haze of the wind drift smog and take refuge on the north shore of Lake Superior.

historic lift bridge

Everything is changing!

First of all the drive took us through some of the most beautiful areas of northern Minnesota and past some of the range cites/towns on our way to the Great Lakes. The closer we got to Duluth the cleaner and more clear the air became. The “fog” had lifted, the clouds had all begun to thin, and soon the air was pure and clean and clear. With a windless temp in low seventies the Lake emerged smooth as glass and all the troubles we had been smothered by back home receded into the darkest parts of our concious awareness! What a change! Words are not good enough to describe how we felt. If only you had been with us you would know!

Along the way other changes were obvious. Some of the old tourist trap shops were still present, but every once in a while a new one or two or three had been built and/or sprung up in the old locations since we last made the trip. The brightly colored signs, the out front displays and the many clutches of curious folks such as us were coming and going. We couldn’t decide where to stop. But once we had gone to the end of Minnesota point and back, visited with an old frined, and made our way to one of the finest restaurants in Duluth, we began to relax and make plans for the rest of the day! So much was new and so many of our favorites were still there, we had a hard time mapping out our course for the rest of the day! WOW!

What about the shops?

There are hundreds of them. All over the place. How could we do justice to the seductive invitations? Maybe its the color of the paint. Maybe the architectual style, or maybe it was simply that we had been to that shop before and we knew what to expect. We have tried a lot of them; bar food restaurants, candy stores, clothing hangouts, ice cream parlours, pie shops, hand made this or that, artisan studios, and the places of learning that peddle their fare and finished products! We even stopped at the “absolutely must do” shop, the smoked cisco favorite of the driver of our car!

The shop that beckons

Let me degress here a little bit to make a point about different retail shops as I see them. There are those who “make it” and are successful, and those who come and go like these beautiful days on the North Shore. The survivors are the ones that are here to stay and they always have been. When you go into one of them you know immediately why you are there! Maybe its polished agates, clearly handmade wrought iron, or yum delicious pie alamode. There’s no guessing, there are no hooks, there’s no opportunistic proprietor trying to sell somethinig, anything, using the language of market blab just to make a few cents on over priced “ClutterStuff” picked up somewhare or nabbed at a clearance sale of dusty imports.

When sisters love to make candy and are pasionate about it you know! It looks like candy, smells like candy, and tastes like candy! And once you’ve tried some you can’t be told otherswise and you will go back again and again to get some more! Then there are…

The ClutterStuff Shoppes!

This is a Brewery!

Since I live in metropolitan with over a million people, I am familier with shopping! I’ve been taken shopping, I’ve been made to go shopping, I’ve even exercised my perogative by going shoping by myself, for myself, and without any kind of restraint (That’s another story!).

What you see is what you get!
I want you to know that I know a great shop when I see one. I also know a “crap shop” when I get sucked into one! If you are thinking about starting a business and opening a shop then, please, oh please, don’t make a great idea turn into a cesspool or dump of cast offs! Here I must tread lightly, but let me say that in my opinion, if you have a passion and a great idea then go for it. But make sure that your shop is identifiable both within and wthout. Don’t let some fast talkng consonee talk you into making your shop look like a collection of a “pickers” dumpster! Everything in your shop should serve the underlying core business you want to pursue. If you want to sell junk then call it a “junk” store, “Grandma’s suff unlimited” or “Tools Grandpa couldn’t wear out!”

The Peace of God?
Sometimes churches are like that! You walk through the door to the sanctuary and it smells like “pot Luck.” You look at the outside marquee and you’s think the pastor’s sermons are going to be some of the biggest jokes. Seating yourself in a beautiful quiet place to search your heart and recieve peace for your soul, and what happens, the ear splitting thumping and banging of heavy metal is served up endlessly. No “Good news to be heard, only a steady flow of psycho bable designed to make you feel good and live in the delusion that “all is well.” When you leave you move away to the quiet of a noisy world wondering about the definition of “Church!” Is this a “ClutterStuff Church like to many others?

May your church be about Our Lord Jesus Christ. Now may The peace of God which surpasses all human understanding keep your hearts and minds through faith in Christ Jesus!

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Lonely but never Alone

Pastor Kogler
Frederick A. Kogler

Lonely but Never Alone!

Sometimes we just want to be alone. I know that there are times when I prefer more than anything else to be able to go into my wood shop and make something. I don’t want or need anyone to be there with me. I’m at peace and it gives me time to think.

Lonely at one time or another

Other times I feel very lonely. I become anxious, and a fearful wave of uncertainty comes over me. I feel empty, disinterested, and have no desire to do anything. This feeling can come over me even when I am in the middle of a group of people. It seems that this is true for many people. Over the years of pastoral counseling I have had folks come to me just to have a chat. At times they express their fears. Sometimes they have come to express their loneliness and their desire for some companionship and a chance to visit or share ideas.

God answers our need

It’s then that the Spirit of God reminds me that in my loneliness, in our loneliness, that in a very real sense we are never alone. Deut. 31:6; “ Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you.” Oh, how good and gracious The Almighty Lord is to us.

How to help others in their loneliness.

A few years back I had a fellow who would regularly, the same day of week, same time of the day, unannounced, stop by my office for a chit chat. I saw his need and recognized the pattern. This prompted me to call a couple of his peers who were struggling in the same way. I suggested that we get together for coffee at the local bagel shop. Three guys came and the four of us had a good time swapping stories, slurping coffee and talking about everything. I offered to close our gathering with a prayer. It was good for all of us! (for more info drop me a line
You can do it, too!

The original threesome has grown to a baker’s dozen! Some have invited friends along, others have added a donut to their morning klatsch, one guy is the coupon gatherer for the group. When one of the fellows took sick and landed in a local nursing home they prayed for him, then the whole group moved their meeting place (they had moved the local market deli) to his residence. When The Lord called him home, the “boys”, as I call them, returned to the local market/deli where they meet weekly, to this day, slurping their coffee, sharing their faith in Jesus and planning how to encourage others.

They are never alone, nor are any of us!

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Senior Faces reflect God’s graces!

Pastor Kogler
Frederick A. Kogler

Senior changes

What’s next for you? That’s a question often asked by individuals who have redirected their lives from lifelong careers to completely different life filling activities. This is true for both men and women who are called “seniors.”

Who are seniors? The older population—persons 65 years or older—numbered 46.2 million in 2014 (the latest year for which data is available). They represented 14.5% of the U.S. population, about one in every seven Americans. By 2060, there will be about 98 million older persons, more than twice their number in 2014.

That will certainly bring changes to the fabric of our American society. One of those changes will include how to deal with the uncertainties of the days ahead. May we be comforted by the Lord as he speaks to that very matter: the uncertainty of the future.

In the Old Testament book of Isaiah 46:4 we hear God’s promise:
Even to your old age and gray hairs
I am he, I am he who will sustain you.
I have made you and I will carry you;
I will sustain you and I will rescue you.

That verse expresses the great love and mercy of God which he promises and gives. We teach the children to know about the undeserved love of God which we call grace. We speak of the “Means of Grace”, The Gospel in the Word and sacraments. To be sure as we age, God is with us; as we hear the word our faith strengthened; as we remember our baptism and receive The Lord’s Supper the Lord is really present with us on our journey. Be at peace the Lord will continue to carry you. Please share your comments:

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Product, Process, and Purpose

Pastor Kogler
Frederick A. Kogler


When describing myself and the product that I offer to others, I have to explain that my stock in trade is commonly known as organized religion. Over the past few months I have been trying to get a handle on the current state of organized religion in America. One of the things that has come to my attention in this regard is the widespread willingness for people to speak openly about what they believe.


My process is not unique, nor is it very scientific at this point. That, however, may soon change as I continue the course I have chosen to follow in the time of redirection. I have talked to men and women, young and old, married, single, students, single parents, laborers and highly skilled professionals, those who declare a denominational tie and those who eschew membership in any church at all. In addition to personal interviews and discussions, I publicly proclaim my biblical Lutheran Christian point of view and listen carefully to the feed back that comes my way after delivering a sermon or writing an article in our church’s newsletter.

All the time, including here and now I ask for feedback and listen carefully to what is offered. I am conscious of how, like so many others, I am inclined to hear what I want and chose to ignore all the rest. But, believe me when I say that, I try real hard to hear and understand what others have to say and what they claim to believe.

That means that if you read this and want to respond you may simply send my you perspective to

My purpose is gather more authentic data about religion and human spirituality than what I’m being exposed to in our present era. There will be no personal quotes, references, or debates in this process. If you feel, however, there is a similarity between what you have written and what I may post it will be purely coincidental.

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The 4 “Rs”! Resolve, Renew, Reorganize, Restart.

Hobbled but a Resolve to Move

How can I resolve to move ahead? Do you know what the word “hobbled” means?  1.  walk in an awkward way, typically because of pain from an injury, (“he was hobbling around on crutches”).  2. or to tie or strap together (the legs of a horse or other animal) to prevent it from straying.

Since shortly after Christmas I have been slowed down considerably because of knee and hip pain. It’s caused by arthiritus and subsequent muscle entropy. Ouch! I had to take steps to resolve my circumstances.

In addition to professional medical diagnosis and treatment, I have been trying all kinds of home remedies. Self designed work arounds sometimes help, but test the patience of my life partner.

Pray, Praise and give thanks to Renew!

I would be remiss if I didn’t  mention how it is that I believe that I am able to maintain the activities of daily living. I resolve to do the various things I do to make good use of my skills, opportunities, and the time I have been alloted.

Without any preaching here, I am prompted to point out to all reading this that self examination is first. What is more, clearing the deck spiritually is  the beginning. I feel, too, exercising my Chrisitan faith and living accordingly is the beginning. I had to measure my committment and my resolve to act on what I believe.

Two Powerful Words: Get Organized.

Before having to slow down and pay attention more closely I lived differently.  My attutude was that of self sufficiency. For example, I kept track of everything in my mind, knowing my inentory,  the location of the things that I have right down to the smallest items. If you were to ask: “where are the 1/2″ wood screws I had left over from a project?” I’d answer: “They are in a box, on the 2nd shelf in my wood shop on the left hand side of the room. They are together with other wood screws in a beige colored shoe box.”

What I’ve come up with is encapsulated in the two words: ‘get organized’. So that’s what I ve been doing the months of January and February.  To save steps and climbing up and down the ladder or step stool I took the time to think through the accessibiity of items on the basis of frequency of use. The thins I use more often are eye level and below, whereas the other less frequently used are up high or down lower in shelf or storage position. It’s helped a lot and saved me many steps and enhanced my planning of projects from start to finish.

Read, Read, Read!

My process has been to read up on as many related articles, ideas, and examples of how others have undertaken the same phases of adjustment.  To make haste slowly I have decided to take things a little bit at a time. This is my resolve. To explain and to share what I’ve learned and or relearned I plan to write a few blog posts and hopefully somoone else might benefit.  As an example I keyed in the words: woodshop organization ideas and came up with about 586,000 responses.

As an example I have now put all the kits, bits, and bushings for a certain pen in an inexpensive plastic shoe box and labeled each so that when I have an order for a certain pen I have everything I need in one place.

I’ve done the same for blanks.

Another suggestion I came upon was to have a kit layout board for each pen I was working on.

It’s a simple piece of board with two “v” grooves inserted to hold the various parts of the kit. For me it has been a time saver.



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Hope Is Positive: I See a Hopeful Horizon

Hope for 2017.

As I write these words I’m looking at my calendar and planning ahead for hope filled new year. This is an activity that is done by most people every time we get to the after Christmas time before the

How do You See It?

New Year’s observance. I see a hopeful horizon for 2017.

I’ve chosen the following words to guide my thoughts: Romans 5:2-5: (ESV) 2 Through him we have also obtained access by faith[a] into this grace in which we stand, and we[b] rejoice[c] in hope of the glory of God. 3 Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, 4 and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, 5 and hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

There are two words here that draw our attention, they are: “Produce” and “Hope.” This reference is also optimistic.

Hope more than an attitude

Hope is an optimistic attitude of mind that is based on an expectation of positive outcomes related to events and circumstances in one’s life or the world at large.

Optimistic people see the best in the world. Optimistic ideas have been around for a while. Consider Voltaire’s “Candide” (1759) he mocked them thoroughly. Here’s an optimistic quote from Ralph Waldo Emerson: “Write it on your heart that every day is the best day in the year.”

Sometimes, however, it seems impossible to have or to maintain a positive and/or optimistic attitude or point of view.

Hope for all Generations

I have come to know several individuals who are the very opposite. Instead of looking forward with eager anticipation, they live in the darkness of fear and trepidation. Whenever the slightest variation in their lives appears they become upset, agitated, their personalities change, and they lash out against others and with much “hand wringing” while negatively influencing others. Baby Boomers and “millennials” fall into these cohorts.(Pew Research Center reports and data on the Millennial generation, and describes “millennials” as those born after 1980 and the first generation to come of age in the new millennium.)

Reasons for Millennials Lack of Hope

The number of millennials is greater than boomers and the numbers in the greatest generation. Asking specific questions about religion, God and heaven when speaking to a millennial, more often gets a response of uncertainty if not hopeless pessimism. The reason for this is attributed to the lack of training in higher and more lofty matters of life. Boomers raised them while placing emphasis on the matters of self, stuff, and cynicism. This era of “empty” training should be laid at the feet of the “Boomers” and their wholesale pursuit of consumer satisfaction.

Grandma Has Hope

This explains why “grandmothers” are the better ones to ask about removing stains with Apple cider vinegar (ACV). Boomers would just throw their soiled things away while “older” generations would clean them up with ACV. If you’re really interested here’s something you can read:

Hope for little children

We gain further insight then when we see that so many of our 3, 4 & 5 year old children have not been baptized. They are not because their parents have been taught to leave them on their own. ‘When they get older they will decide.’ They are not taught to pray, they do not understand death and dying while they see it all around them, and their hearts and minds do not know about forgiving love, mercy, compassion, and human spirituality.

This is especially saddening when educators, doctors and psychologists talk of the same ages as the most important for training in the basic concepts of self worth, socialization, forgiveness and human spirituality.

When something goes wrong during the formative years, that has an effect on how the person grows and develops later during adolescence and adult life. Most time lines consider the first five years the formative years, and during this time social skills and basic motor functions are learned and practiced. Learning to walk, talk and use the bathroom are some key examples of these formative skills.

In addition, personality is greatly impacted by these years. Many basic likes and dislikes, such as arts and sports, have their beginnings in this period. Emotional development also starts in the formative years. It is important to focus on encouraging a child’s intellectual and thinking abilities during these years, as it can have a significant impact on them later in life. It is difficult to make up for a lack of this encouragement at an older age because by the end of the formative years so many basic building blocks are set in stone. For example, a child who does not learn to speak early enough will have difficulty learning later on.”

(Please note that most school districts implementing 4-k programs seek to perpetuate the humanistic world view)

The Bible is full of directions to train up children. The last time I counted there were 31 easily identified passages. Proverbs 22:6 is readily understood: “Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.”

Children of all generations are to be given hope. That hope is based on the righteousness of Christ. They need to learn about Jesus. We teach the children at home, in our preschool, Sunday School,  Christian Day Schools and confirmation classes to have an optimistic perspective based on the absolute truth of God as set forth in the Scriptures.

May we do all that we can to teach by word and example the message of the Gospel!

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The World is Changing, Is That Change Real?


Frederick A. Kogler

To anyone aware, the question of our world changing looms big! Just pause for a moment and sense your surroundings. It has to be obvious that things are different today than ever before. What’s really happening? Change is everywhere around us. It’s more than political redirection. It’s more than provincialism being replaced by globalism. Yes, it’s more than ice melting and freezing. From the simplest of perspectives one will have to agree that there is nothing the same as it used to be.

Change is all around us.

You can pick almost any activity, place, or preceding era and see that change is real. The notion that history repeats itself is passe. The “tried and the true” may have served as some sort of axiomatic benchmark in the past.  In each case, however, the fluid circumstances for experimentation and the criteria assumed to render judgements were never static. The fantasies of such notions were tolerated only because of shorter life spans and the speed with which communication took place. That’s all changed.

As I write these words I’m using a computer. From what I understand it uses assigned combinations of X’s and O’s to convey the thoughts I have. Rheinhold in his book, Tools for Thought:The History and Future of Mind-expanding Technology, Simon & Schuster 1985, writes about this while explaining the impact of micro-computers on the future(his future is our here and now).

How does change impact my life?

To answer my thematic question I’ve pondered the tools I use in my public ministry and the hobby, the turning of pens.

A sportsman grouping of pens

Both my Mac and my favorite pens are used for the same reason, word-processing. One process is a calculated tapping on a keyboard. The other is the disciplined art of drawing letters and numbers clearly enough to convey a message.

Consider these changes

Dramatic changes in writing have happened in a short period of time. Who would have ever thought I would be able to speak the words of this blog and have them appear on the monitor in front of me? (check out ReadingMadeEZ for more details:

I try to discipline myself to keeping current in the areas of electronic communications, politics, and the matters of religion.  A side bar to these is the impact that they might have on the aging of our world. Statistically the dramatic changes in global aging give an insight to the importance of each of the above as they relate to seniors throughout the world.

My wife and I belong to the cohort of “Old old”. We have, in part, committed our time, talents, and resources  to keeping up with the changing world that spins around us.

There are three categories for older adults’ ages, “young old”, “old old” and “oldest old” (Papalia et al., 2009). Young old is suggested as the age from 65 to 74; old old is suggested as the age from 75 to 84 whereas oldest old is suggested as the age of 85 and the above.

This blog’s thread lays the groundwork for discussions of one of Thomas Friedman’s 3 exponential changes occurring today: IT and its impact on marketing or the sharing of ideas.  Our discussion will be on how to deal with those changes. Stay tuned.






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